Bargain idea for 2011

[lebowski00]

Over at Hk residency we do this bargain series where we travel to different tracks and all enter a bid race. First we transfer the horses to the stable we bid the MCL for. The winner takes all the horses (whoever finishes highest from lot).

I had this vision where we buy say a MSW for 20 horse field for the following schedule:
1-California
2-Local Breedings : WA , OR , MT , NV , WY , UT , ID , CO
3-Canada
4-Texas
5-AR , NM , AZ , OK , MEX , HI , DOM , DR , MS , VI
6-IL , KS , IA , IN , MI , NE , MO , WI , SD , MN , ND
7-Florida TURF (just to making 12 each surface???)
8-OH , WV , VA , AL , GA , NC , SC , TN
9-Kentucky
10-New York
11-Maryland
12-Pennsylvania
13-NJ , DE , CT , NH , ME , MA , VT (took PA out think its better)
14-Great Britain/England TURF
15-France TURF
16-Germany, Spain, Scotland TURF
17-Ireland TURF
18-CZE , DEN , SWE , NOR , SWI , HOL , BAH , HUN , POL , BEL TURF
19-Australia TURF
20-New Zealand TURF
21-SAF , PHI , ZIM , KEN TURF
22-Japan TURF
23-Turkey rest of orient region TURF
24-PR , JAM , ARG , BRZ , CHI , VEN , URU , PER , TRI , PAN TURF

So about every other week we would have a MSW for breeds from these locations. For a total of 24 regular season races where each trainer who finishes in top five gets points towards an overall standing. The race would be either on dirt or turf depending on location. I put the surface I guess next to the tag regions above.

This may need some tweaking but it would give 12 races on each surfaces which I think would be good because we could have a turf and dirt stakes grand finally at end of season with all of the top three finishers invited to enter either race. Since some horses would like get bred over and not continue to run well we wouldn't have to worry about having too many entries to fit into 20 in the worldwide finale's.

The cost would not be as outrages as one would think. I propose that the races be bought and paid for by a conglomerate of residencies while they represent the BBRS and its site. My thinking is this. Currently Hong Kong residency has a miniature variant of this series, but our fields are only about 5 to 8 strong. If we combined with you guys on this one project, and say BS (since I know mark is an avid bargainer , or other interested parties. We could allow access to just these races to anyone who is a member of one of these rezs (or just open to whole sim).

I am willing to make a donation to this if some others will come forward in support. If I do though I want our rez members to be able to get an entry in. If we pulled together it would not cost us much and of course knightmare would still have all the other bargain race dates, and this series would have BBRS name on it. We would get discount on 800 credit MSW we bought anyways.

This would put loads of bargains on the track, and be loads of fun. I am also willing to put time into helping run this thing. What does everyone think?

Its just an idea so please nobody get mad at me if they dont like it. Thanks

[lebowski00]

I should clarify that I am hoping knightmare will go for this if BBRS doesn't have to pay a thing. Would be nice to give some more back to series anyways.

[liddleski]

i love the idea would be loads of fun and you would have a great chance of getting a good one form it


take care all
mark

[Knightmare]

I know we talked about this before but can you clarify how the stables work? Would we be creating a new stable for each week and the winner gets the stable? Also since a stable is limited to 10 runners any bid race we entered could potentially have four other entries. How did you guys deal with that at Hong Kong Racing?

[lebowski00]

In HK we bid races for a stable which is one way to do it, but I was thinking we could just buy a MSW for each race that would be password protected. You keep your horses all season if we do it that way. I like this method because we need not worry about bid races.

The alternative would be just to bid races and ship horses to a stable and enter all the stable in a bid race and give the stable to the winner which is whoever had best placing. If we did this and had more than ten trainers we would probably need two stables each race week with this method.

Either way we put loads of bargains on the track.

[Knightmare]

Well I cant say I would have a runner for each race, and I really cant pitch in much if anything for the races but I would be a participant. Seems like a good idea, would become a lot less expensive if we could bid local bred races.

[teejay]

I like the idea, only problem i see is creating 2 stables every 2 weeks, but if thats alright, then i'd be up for it

[desperado]

i think it is an interesting idea, it just seems like a lot of work/management/cost

[Knightmare]

Just to clarify but I think in this case we would purchase the races and enter them similarly to the way we do for our races.

I think the big hurdle would be costs past that it would be tracking winners. Cost wise mike might give a break if you purchased all the races at once.

[teejay]

How about something similar. We reduce it from 24 races to say 10.

First Round - Bid 6-8 races and no doubt we will all get a start (unless its early 2yos)
Second Round - First 2 or 3 in the bid races entered through BBRS run in a owner restricted race.

Would be pretty interesting seeing a field of 16-20 horses, with probably more than half running well in a MSW

[lebowski00]

Yeah reduce the race number is a good idea but maybe anyone who wants to post on here can pick a region they want to use in the series. We could collectively pick 12.

I just want people to be able to have their favorite region included, but I guess those involved enough to post what regions they want would be good enough.

[dundey]

We do a similar thing at the Minnesota residency. We did it with bargain 3 year olds this year and bought a series of races for them.

If you guys are looking to get another res involved in this, I'd be glad to get it started at MN and help with the race buying.

[lebowski00]

yeah I think that would be good. That was my general thinking is if some rez's that do those sort of things wanted to pool them together for one awesome circuit here we could do something special in 2011.

[dundey]

OK, Knightmare let me know if you want to do this in conjunction with the MN res.

We could buy half the races, or maybe we can even get another res involved. Either way, it fits into what we already did for 2010, so if we change it up a bit for 2011 it could be even better with more people involved.
BTW, I currently manage the MN res, since Chuck's departure.