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Post by mlotjb on Jun 16, 2009 16:53:16 GMT -5
I thought I would start a new thread for this. I know that people have been discussing breedings in the sire of the week threads, but I thought I'd start an overall thread. We have one in my other residency and it's interesting to see. I don't know if it will catch on or not, but figured it was worth a shot.
Basically, the idea is you just post in here when you breed a bargain horse (or use a bargain sire). It's a good way to share ideas and spark discussion, and just see what everyone is doing.
I'll get things started with the bargain breds I've put together in recent weeks.
Wlkliknegyptian ROAR X UPPER NILE X ALPHA BOY I bred this one specifically to test a Round Table x Princequillo nick in the back end. Alpha Boy, as far as I can tell, has never been used in the sim before. Ran a 47 on turf in his first race.
Dandelion Wine BRADBURY'S LUCK X SANDTRAP X NIJINSKY'S SECRET I bred this one after finding an old BTB article written by lebowski about bargain sires, and he talked about BL in it. I decided to give it a try, and may do so again in the future. As a 2yo, this one ran on turf for a 54 SF his first time out. He'll be running for the second time in a couple of weeks.
BK's Dessert TIAGO X GRAND OPERA X AT TALAQ I just wanted to give freshman sire Tiago a try here. I'll probably try him again in the future with a more expensive back end.
A Is For Awesome APPRENTICE X BOULDER DAM X ACCIPITER After looking through a few of the bargain sire profiles on the main website here, I wanted to look for something to use Apprentice.
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Post by mlotjb on Jun 21, 2009 16:54:32 GMT -5
As mentioned in the dam sires thread, I clicked through on a bargain bred that showed up in my stable today.
Under The Wire ALRAYYIH X PERSONAL FLAG X BLOOD ROYAL
I was inspired by the bargain dam sire thread. There are a lot of big sires in the mix here, but no crossing at all.
This is the first homebred in one of two new stables I've put together. I'm going to keep all the horses in these two as either full bargain breds or bargain sires. I plan on experimenting with some sires as well and breeding a few times with different back ends to see what works best. If there are any sires in particular people think I should try, let me know.
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Post by mtk76 on Jun 22, 2009 8:48:15 GMT -5
Some new ones for me:
REGIME CHANGE Sire NEWFOUNDLAND [2x] 55 2 1 0 0 Started! Yes DamSire TRADITIONALLY [2x] 35 2 1 2 0 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire SLEW THE COUP [2x] 16 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Sire Cost : 55 DamSire Cost : 35 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 8 Total Cost: 98
NOTEABLE VERSE Sire EDITOR'S NOTE [2x] 39 2 1 2 2 Started! Yes DamSire VISION AND VERSE [2x] 55 2 1 2 0 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire TOKATEE [2x] 11 0 0 2 1 Started! Yes Sire Cost : 39 DamSire Cost : 55 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 5 Total Cost: 99
GET TANKED UP Sire ROAR OF THE TIGER [2x] 35 2 1 0 0 Started! Yes DamSire TANK'S PROSPECT [2x] 55 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire SPARKLING NATIVE [2x] 18 0 0 1 1 Started! Yes Sire Cost : 35 DamSire Cost : 55 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 9 Total Cost: 99
TRADITIONAL CLONE Sire WITH DISTINCTION [2x] 55 2 1 0 0 Started! Yes DamSire TRADITIONALLY [2x] 33 2 1 2 0 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire TOKATEE [2x] 11 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Sire Cost : 55 DamSire Cost : 33 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 5 Total Cost: 93
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Post by dragnil on Jun 22, 2009 10:16:05 GMT -5
I haven't bred many bargains this year, though almost all the sires I've used would fall into bargain range.
The two I have bred that would qualify for the bargain races are:
Cheap Roman => Caesour x Academy Award x Skip Away - poor 3 y/o, and replaced already Another Gypsy => Mogok x Royal Chalice x Caveat - 3 y/o that just had a poor debut. I bred another, Gypsy's Warning, with the same lines last year as a 2 y/o. That one has been quite decent with a record of (9) 3-2-3. She's won her last 3 starts, the last 2 being allowances. She's a turf sprinter and scored 86 in those 2 allowance wins.
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Post by axeracing on Jun 27, 2009 12:58:05 GMT -5
I like this summer sale!
Time : 6/27/2009 1:55:43 PM
Preferred Male Name CANYON RACER Preferred Female Name CANYON RACER
Horse to Eliminate MORTAL WRATH(SWE) Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location IL
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire CANYON RUN [2x] 10 2 1 2 2 Started! Yes DamSire CHROMITE [2x] 30 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire THATCH [2x] 61 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 15 Deducted! Sire Cost : 10 DamSire Cost : 30 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 30 Breeding horse from scratch for less than 100 points : 50% off (down to 27 points) Per the instructions, bargain horses cannot be purchased using credits. Therefore, no credit option box will appear.
Early Summer Bonus - All scratch point and credit breedings under 500 credits are 50% off through June! Your horse will only cost 13 points! This will be reduced on the next screen.
Total cost : 13 points
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Post by mtk76 on Jun 27, 2009 20:11:12 GMT -5
Fired on one as well: ime : 6/27/2009 9:08:19 PM
Preferred Male Name WITH PIZAZZ Preferred Female Name WITH PIZAZZ
Horse to Eliminate OTTO'S BARGAIN(FL) Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location FL
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire WITH DISTINCTION [2x] 54 2 1 0 0 Started! Yes DamSire CAPTAIN BODGIT [2x] 30 2 1 2 2 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire TOKATEE [2x] 11 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 10 Deducted! Sire Cost : 54 DamSire Cost : 30 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 5 Breeding horse from scratch for less than 100 points : 50% off (down to 39 points) Per the instructions, bargain horses cannot be purchased using credits. Therefore, no credit option box will appear.
Early Summer Bonus - All scratch point and credit breedings under 500 credits are 50% off through June! Your horse will only cost 19 points! This will be reduced on the next screen.
Total cost : 19 points
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Post by axeracing on Jul 4, 2009 13:59:09 GMT -5
Got some more nice deals! Pending Breedings for This Week Stable Names Sire Cost C/P Replacing 59chevy EXEGETICAL EXEGETICAL BEST MINISTER x INTERPRETE x BLAKENEY 19 Points 173934(back to CPU) We'll see how much that DDS matters! axeracing3 QORCHAH ROSH QORCHAH ROSH BEST MINISTER x COJAK x MISTY FLIGHT 19 Points 170955(back to CPU) nyuck GREEK INTERLINEAR GREEK INTERLINEAR GREEK SUN x AMERRICO x RIBOT 79 Points 167318(back to CPU)
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Post by hawkz on Jul 4, 2009 23:41:06 GMT -5
Time : 7/5/2009 12:40:37 AM
Preferred Male Name CLASSICAL CAT Preferred Female Name CLASSICAL CAT Horse to Eliminate DEPEND(IRE) Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 3 Breeding Location CAN
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire JUST A CAT [2x] 20 2 1 2 2 Started! Yes DamSire SKY CLASSIC [2x] 68 2 1 1 1 Started! No Dam's DamSire CLASSIC (IRE) [2x] 9 2 1 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
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Post by hawkz on Jul 5, 2009 0:01:44 GMT -5
Time : 7/5/2009 12:59:12 AM
Preferred Male Name NZED TOP Preferred Female Name NZED TOP Horse to Eliminate ORIENT FORCE Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location FR
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire ALBERTO GIACOMETTI (IRE) [2x] 30 1 1 0 0 Started! No DamSire TOP VILLE(IRE) [2x] 61 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire RADICAL(GB) [2x] 13 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 9 Deducted! Sire Cost : 30 DamSire Cost : 61 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 6
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Post by mlotjb on Jul 6, 2009 1:54:44 GMT -5
I've used a number of bargain sires recently, but this is my most recent pure bargain bred:
Preferred Male Name MOONWALKING Preferred Female Name MOONWALKING Horse to Eliminate DUSZYNSKI(BRZ) Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location TX
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire TIAGO [2x] 50 1 0 0 0 Started! Yes DamSire SPORTIN' LIFE [2x] 31 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire BOLD MONARCH [2x] 28 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 10 Deducted! Sire Cost : 50 DamSire Cost : 31 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 14 Breeding horse from scratch for less than 100 points : 50% off (down to 42 points) Per the instructions, bargain horses cannot be purchased using credits. Therefore, no credit option box will appear.
Early Summer Bonus - All scratch point and credit breedings under 500 credits are 50% off through June! Your horse will only cost 21 points! This will be reduced on the next screen.
Total cost : 21 points
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I didn't realize prior to doing this one that the summer breeding sale actually erased the 25-point minimum that's usually in place. I'll definitely be pulling the trigger on some more over the next couple of weeks with that in mind.
This one was named in honor of Michael Jackson, and I figured it would be appropriate since he'll most likely be sliding backwards on the track as well.
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Post by mtk76 on Jul 6, 2009 7:12:56 GMT -5
Two new ones:
Preferred Male Name THE BIG STAGE Preferred Female Name THE BIG STAGE
Horse to Eliminate TRADITIONAL VALUES(FR) Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location LA
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire BIG TOP CAT [2x] 54 1 1 0 0 Started! Yes DamSire SLEW DANCER [2x] 20 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire SUCCESS EXPRESS [2x] 49 0 1 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 10 Deducted! Sire Cost : 54 DamSire Cost : 20 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 24 Breeding horse from scratch for less than 100 points : 50% off (down to 44 points) Per the instructions, bargain horses cannot be purchased using credits. Therefore, no credit option box will appear.
Early Summer Bonus - All scratch point and credit breedings under 500 credits are 50% off through June! Your horse will only cost 22 points! This will be reduced on the next screen.
Total cost : 22 points
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Time : 7/5/2009 11:23:38 AM
Preferred Male Name INDYGO AFFAIR Preferred Female Name INDYGO AFFAIR
Horse to Eliminate HOOCH ALERT(KY) Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location ARG
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire INDYGO SHINER [2x] 58 1 1 2 0 Started! Yes DamSire DANCING GROOM [2x] 9 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire BLACK TIE AFFAIR(IRE) [2x] 65 0 0 1 1 Started! No Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 10 Deducted! Sire Cost : 58 DamSire Cost : 9 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 32 Breeding horse from scratch for less than 100 points : 50% off (down to 44 points) Per the instructions, bargain horses cannot be purchased using credits. Therefore, no credit option box will appear.
Early Summer Bonus - All scratch point and credit breedings under 500 credits are 50% off through June! Your horse will only cost 22 points! This will be reduced on the next screen.
Total cost : 22 points
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Post by mlotjb on Jul 11, 2009 2:36:47 GMT -5
Nice job on that Indygo, mtk.
I haven't done any full-blown bargains this week, but have used three bargain sires. I forget the full bloodlines so I'll have to post once they show up in my stable.
I also plan on doing one or two bargains this weekend.
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Post by hawkz on Jul 11, 2009 19:05:07 GMT -5
Preferred Male Name BPB OPERA O Preferred Female Name BPB OPERA O Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location JPN
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire T. M. OPERA O [2x] 84 2 1 2 0 Started! Yes DamSire COUVREUR(IRE) [2x] 5 0 0 2 1 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire BALLYDOYLE [2x] 21 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 12 Deducted! Sire Cost : 84 DamSire Cost : 5 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 10
Preferred Male Name NZED HAWKZ Preferred Female Name NZED HAWKZ Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location AUS
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire BRAVE HAWK (AUS) [2x] 25 1 1 0 0 Started! Yes DamSire TOP VILLE(IRE) [2x] 65 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Dam's DamSire COUVREUR(IRE) [2x] 5 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 10 Deducted! Sire Cost : 25 DamSire Cost : 65 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 2
Preferred Male Name A MATTER OF PRIDE Preferred Female Name A MATTER OF PRIDE Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location FL
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire DOUBLE HONOR [2x] 25 2 1 2 2 Started! Yes DamSire ROAR [2x] 64 1 1 2 2 Started! No Dam's DamSire EXCLUSIVE ERA [2x] 21 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Sire Cost : 25 DamSire Cost : 64 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 10
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Post by hawkz on Jul 11, 2009 23:05:16 GMT -5
Time : 7/11/2009 11:59:22 PM
Preferred Male Name NOWHERE CLASSIC Preferred Female Name NOWHERE CLASSIC Using Horse For Breeding No Age of New Horse 2 Breeding Location IRE
ID Horse Cost Still Available Aprox Start Credit Option? 2yo 3yo DS DDS Sire EREWHON [2x] 21 2 1 0 0 Started! Yes DamSire SKY CLASSIC [2x] 67 2 1 1 2 Started! No Dam's DamSire CHEROKEE FELLOW [2x] 22 0 0 2 2 Started! Yes Hypomate Me BETA - Some fields may be incorrect or incomplete at this time!
Cost Breakdown :
Bonus for giving your old horse horse back to the CPU : 14 Deducted! Sire Cost : 21 DamSire Cost : 67 Dam's DamSire Cost / 2 : 11
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Post by dragnil on Jul 12, 2009 7:33:56 GMT -5
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